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, and john mccain. what is going on here? it certainly looks to a layman that there is a desperate scramble to find a way to raise revenue in a cbo-scoreable way that would not be seen as violating the pledge. the question is, is the pledge losing its magic? >> i really take very strong exception to taking this poll seriously. because if you ask people, the vast majority of whom are not going to be subjected to this tax, and they are being told that somebody else will have to pay it -- and if you discover in the process that only 60% of the voters are in favor of that, i think it speaks for itself and speaks very well of the american people. if you have a public opinion poll where the voters would be asked how would you feel if we cut all of your taxes by half, and also give your children free tuition, except we would have to have a referendum on exiling barack obama from the united states, i would be interesting to hear the results of this vote. polls like that in my view should not be part of the serious conversation. everything else you said i completely agree with. [laughter] >> by cont
budget office and he is a very distinguished economists. economichn mccain's advisor and he is now running the american action forum. of his one of the best out there on fiscal issues but he does it kindly. and then we have steve. i wanted to give him chairmanship of the jobs council, but he said jeff immelt has that, but not for long. it is one of the founders and chairman of aol. he chairs the entrepreneurship counsel for the president. the interesting thing about the sparks for creativity. michael, you have been involved in a major study with the harvard business school. you're engaged thousands of people, thousands of voices coming discussions with hundreds of economic leaders and you have come up with an eight-point plan. i have gone through its and some of it makes a lot of sense to me. it would have made sense in the 1980's camera so it makes you think this is such a big deal now? >> we have had a chance to interact with the jobs council and we have a tremendous alignment. the striking things that we found is that we all agree on almost everything that really needs to be don
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